29 August 2013

And a bit more on Chelsea Manning

I am not necessarily disagreeing with what Francis says about Ms Manning.

Let's just not forget a few not exactly stellar moments in her story (intended or not is another question):

The betrayal of Belarus dissidents.

The torture and death of Majid Jamali Fashi.

The betrayal of Afghans who had co-operated with American forces and more.

And, most probably, much, much more, knowing the people who received the info Ms Manning will be paying now for by all these years in the nick.

8 comments:

SnoopyTheGoon said...

I just can't bring myself to think of HIM as a Ms. I don't care what/who he thinks he is.

SnoopyTheGoon said...

Sholom Alihem said once that a person is what he wants to be, or something to that effect. Let's give Manning her dues...

SnoopyTheGoon said...

"The betrayal of Belarus dissidents."

Moral culpability for that lies with Messrs Julian Assange and Israel [sic] Shamir.

Likewise, the torture and death of Majid Jamali Fashi is down to the information dissemination choices made by Assange and Wikileaks.

Manning was motivated by the Apache helicopter incident in Baghdad in July 2007, and the subsequent bloodlust celebration of same by US soldiers. In Manning's position I (hope I) would have done exactly the same.

Publication of the information supplied by Manning is the responsibility of Wikileaks and those journalistic outlets with which Wikileaks engaged. By and large the journalists made a reasonably good job of it. One cannot say the same for Wikileaks.

SnoopyTheGoon said...

I hope you will refrain from repeating Manning's action, be hard to correspond with you in a British nick, OSA thrown at you at the right angle. Hard enough without a comment plugin as it is today...

Seriously, though, if I were caught selling guns to people, said people shooting other people with my guns, my excuse would definitely be "guns don't shoot people". How good is this excuse for holding water in it, is a good question, still unresolved in full.

And as I recall, we had no disagreements on the worm Assange and the vermin Israel Shamir.

SnoopyTheGoon said...

Manning will find himself in 2 hard places. The first smashing big rocks into little stones. (Yes the US military still does that.) The second becoming a play thing for Bruno and his fellow prisoners.

SnoopyTheGoon said...

Leavenworth is more into isolation than most prisons. As the perpetual private, Manning will not be pleased.

SnoopyTheGoon said...

2? Somehow I count many more, following your version of the future.

SnoopyTheGoon said...

I almost said "well, it will make a man out of him". Oops.