03 December 2005

About that fat guy from the projects.

There is, apparently, a new fish in that small and murky pond that is thinly populated by the so-called Jews against Zionism.

That fish is not particularly different from the others. What it wants is for the State of Israel to just be gone, to disappear from its consciousness and to stop intruding in its peaceful day to day existence - in Harlem. Quite pathetic.

Oh, there is another thing this fish desires - to be back in the sixties. Back to the days of exclusive clubs that denied membership to niggers and kikes, when the Ivy League universities had a good old quota for these same kinda people.

Apparently, all the ills of the world could be cured by kicking out the Jews from Israel. At least in fat guy's mind that act should change everything dear for him:

"Yes, let the Palestinians return to their homes, and let me return to mine."

Oh, of course, like all the other so called anti-Zionists, the fat guys does not care what implementation of the RoR for Palestinians means. Just that two wrongs will equal for him and his ilk a right, and then it all will be nice and peachy. No more Zionism, that is.

Of course, the fat guy expects being called names, starting with "self-hating Jew". Too bad, we are not following the pattern. For us, the Elders, you are just one typical SSJ (see here) and not even a particularly clever one. Linking to Lenni Brenner and his feverish "Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis" theories? Come on, Eugene, you must know better. You must know better than use that "ZioNazi" term too, it places you squarely enough for all to see... But no, you are not clever enough to avoid that pitfall.

What is of (passing) interest - who is jumping on that sudden gift of another blog by another Self Serving Jew:

- Sue Blackwell, that apocalyptic Christian "shiksa" who made a U-turn to become an apocalyptic socialist anti-Zionist shiksa

- That spiritual twin of his from the slums of UK - Mark Elf of Jews Sans Frontiers

- Annie Annab of Al Awda media who still links to Gilad Atzmon, whom even the most rabid anti-Zionists tend to shun these days

- Miscellaneous Israel-haters who are so eager to embrace him as one of theirs...

Tell me who your friends are, indeed.

It is telling that all posts by KalamazooKid got purged... Ehehe. Talk about dialog.

"I do not have a right and do not want a right to "return" to Israel."

Your wish is granted, Eugene the fatso.

"I never was there."

We know. That's good - less smell on our streets. We, the Elders, are sensitive to odors.


P.S. It is ironic what that fat guy puts on his site - in order to get more hits, apparently. A Zionist propaganda leaflet? About the Right of Return? Come on, Eugene!

20 comments:

Eugene Weixel said...

You're foaming at the mouth. Calm down. Isn't life beautiful? Now, there!

SnoopyTheGoon said...

Wazzat? Some quick psychoanalysis from the fatso?

Wow, that depth of mind and straight out of the projects, no less...

Nothing better to offer, dorkus?

Eugene Weixel said...

Humor and irony don't work with you, so here's the point:

Stay off my comments pages. I get your point, it's been duly noted.

Stay off my comments and I'll stay off yours.

SnoopyTheGoon said...

"Humor and irony don't work with you".

He he. You see, Eugene, the problem is you wouldn't recognise irony if one is stuck red-hot in your posterior.

Re the stay off proposal - too bad, it is an open space. We promise not to erase your attempts to be ironic, and you abstain from erasing ours - that is the most we can promise.

Of course, we realise that for you answering more difficult points would be too much of an effort, so just sit still and enjoy the ride...

Anonymous said...

Who is "Gilad Atzmon"... and what is links to ?

SnoopyTheGoon said...

Google, anon, google. here is his site:

http://www.gilad.co.uk/

But there are tons of stuff of and about him as well.

Make your own conclusions.

Anonymous said...

i'm more intersted in seeing the links to part of the question answered

SnoopyTheGoon said...

Sorry, lost you there. Which links do you mean?

Anonymous said...

Annie Annab of Al Awda media who still links to Gilad Atzmon ?

SnoopyTheGoon said...

http://www.al-awda.org/media/links.html

Here you go, search for Gilad on this page. If that is your heart's desire.

Eugene Weixel said...

Okay bozos, let's go.....

Bozo number one said on his website about me:

"There is, apparently, a new fish in that small and murky pond that is thinly populated by the so-called Jews against Zionism."

To this I say:
The State of Israel won't "just be gone," it will have to be chased out. I believe a head of a nearby state had the right words for it.


"That fish is not particularly different from the others. What it wants is for the State of Israel to just be gone, to disappear from its consciousness and to stop intruding in its peaceful day to day existence - in Harlem. Quite pathetic."

To this I'll reply:
I would appreciate if our taxes not go to subsidize a North american suburban lifestyle in "israel." I'd appreciate it if the Zionist press pay some honest attention to the real lives of the working people and the poor in New York. I'd personally love to string up those obnoxious chicken hawk neo ziocons who pushed and planned the war in Iraq. And I'd love to see every chicken hawk American, particularly every chicken hawk American zionist Jew in Iraq now, pending the ultimate and inevitable withdrawal, which I'd prefer to see today.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall if the military men, the officers, could ever get their hands on Wackowitz and the rest of that chickenhawk cabal whose plans are destroying the armed forces right under their feet.

"Oh, there is another thing this fish desires - to be back in the sixties. Back to the days of exclusive clubs that denied membership to niggers and kikes, when the Ivy League universities had a good old quota for these same kinda people..."
To that I say:

You silly, stupid self absorbed piece of dreck. I spoke of a time when working people could pay rent on places to live, before the real estate industry destroyed rent controll and rent stabilization and put a stop to construction of public housing and tax exempt financed housig co ops. Oh and who dominates the real estate industry and New York politics?
Bloomberg's" billions and democracy.

Click to find out why the "anti semitism" cry is out of date and full of crap.

KalamazooKid said...

Oh yeah, that middle class subirban life style

http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/newscontent.php3?artid=11744

Seething In Sderot:
Joshua Mitnick - Israel Correspondent

Sderot, Israel

It’s close to noon in the open-air vegetable market of this sleepy southern Israel city, and all Sami Hajbi has to show for his morning’s work is two wrinkled bank notes worth $33 that he pulls out of an empty cash register.

“People don’t have any money,” he complained. “Look around, there’s no one here. People here make 2,700 shekels [$590] a month — and that’s those who have work.”

A tattered Likud campaign bumper sticker still adorns the base of Hajbi’s cash register. But when Israelis go to the polls in March to elect a new parliament, Hajbi won’t be voting Likud.

Seated on a plastic crate, he blames former Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for instituting a wave of spending cuts that hurt the pocketbooks of his shoppers, triggering an 80 percent drop in his sales.

“Since Bibi Netanyahu made his cuts there’s been nothing,” Hajbi said. “He’s a big liar.”

The bitterness of the fruit vendor reflects a growing focus in Israel on the country’s socioeconomic problems as a key issue in the upcoming vote.

As violence with the Palestinians has ebbed in the past year and a consensus coalesces around support for a two-state solution, Israelis increasingly are turning their attention to domestic problems.

Much of the alarm is over Israel’s yawning socioeconomic gap and rising poverty rates, which are second only to the U.S. among Western industrialized countries.

Earlier this month Israel’s statistics bureau said that one in every five children in the country lives below the poverty line.

According to the country’s social welfare administration, the National Insurance Institute, 19 percent of Israeli families live in poverty.

It’s a trend that’s been in the public eye for more than a decade but often forgotten during election time. Debates on the economy have long been submerged during Israeli campaigns because of the country’s familiar tug of war over the peace process and security.

“In Israel, almost always, security is the dominant, the most salient issue in the elections,” said Gideon Doron, a political science professor at Tel Aviv University. “After the [Gaza] disengagement, there is a sense in Israel that the security dimension is somewhat less important and the social dimension is more important. Therefore all parties are competing with each other on socioeconomics.”

With the coronation of Histadrut labor federation chairman Amir Peretz as leader of the Labor Party, the economy and class politics already has taken on a more prominent role in Israel’s public agenda.

The aftershock of Peretz’s election is being felt in the orphaned Likud Party, where Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom and Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz are trying to sell themselves as sympathetic to the lower-income groups in a bid to challenge Netanyahu in the race to succeed Ariel Sharon.

Meanwhile, the focus on the economy can be seen in the rivalry between Sharon’s new political party, Kadima, and Labor in recruiting new high-profile politicians. Instead of ex-generals, the battle is over professional intellectuals.

Last week Ben Gurion University President Avishai Braverman, a former World Bank economist, joined Labor. On Tuesday, Israeli radio and television reporter Shelly Yachimovich joined that party promising to fight the “right-wing economic rampage.”

While the Peretz-led Labor is trying to pattern itself after European social democratic parties, the Likud under Netanyahu is expected to favor policies of U.S. free market advocates. The economic approach of Sharon’s Kadima is still unclear.

The current anxiety over poverty has been bubbling below the surface of Israeli politics for at least two years, analysts say. It can be traced back to belt-tightening budget cuts adopted by Netanyahu to reduce the government deficit and forestall a financial crisis. The cuts eliminated unemployment subsidies and child allowances.

“The poor in Israel are in a much more dire situation than they were 10 years ago,” said Sam Lehman Wilzig, a professor of political science at Bar Ilan University. “Their social support network has been cut.”

At the same time, Netanyahu pushed through a tax-cutting program seen as a break for the upper class. As Israel’s economic growth has recovered in the past two years and unemployment dropped to a four-year low of 8.9 percent, the improved economic atmosphere has yet to trickle down.

Jonathan Katz, an economist at Leider & Co. investments, explained that the economic expansion has been limited thus far to the country’s high-tech industries. Unskilled wage earners mostly have been left out, he said.

“There’s a general dissatisfaction among the lower class and lower-middle class that this phenomenon has become acute and may need correction,” Katz said.

The problem is most visible in small, far-flung cities like Sderot, which happens to be the hometown of Peretz. Formal unemployment estimates indicate that about 10 percent of the city is without jobs, but some believe the number could be triple that figure.

Founded as a “development town” where Israel’s new immigrants in the 1950s and ’60s were housed in tent cities, the town on the edge of the Negev desert has always struggled economically. In the past year it has become the target of attacks from Palestinian groups inside of Gaza. That has contributed to a wave of factory closings and a lack of new investment, residents say.

“Sderot is a microcosm of the entire periphery,” said its deputy mayor, Shai Ben Yaishe. “This is not the problem of the development towns. It is a national problem.”

After years of focusing on security and peace as the problems that eventually would help boost the country’s socioeconomic situation, Israeli politicians need to change their approach, Ben Yaishe said.

“The improved economy will bring security, and security will bring peace, not the other way around,” he said. “Once you moderate the feelings of the people and the bitterness,” it is much easier to make peace.

Back in the market, Yona Kalpha, a 55-year-old unemployed metal worker, carries a bag of potatoes home to a house with four children. A longtime Likud supporter, he says he is also looking elsewhere to cast his vote.

“For me, the economy is more important than security,” he said. “There will be a Palestinian state anyway. In this city there’s no work, no infrastructure and no factories. The party with the best economic platform will win.”

“Someone like me who has economic problems will go to Peretz. Sharon was social welfare minister for more than a year and he didn’t do anything. And everything that Netanyahu did Sharon agreed with. Sharon is 100 percent on security, but that doesn’t interest me that much. They ignored economics because of security. And a lot of money is going to settlements instead of investing in development towns. They’re not the first priority for Sharon.” n

Eugene Weixel said...

Well you know that the average standard of living for European Jews in Israel is quite high and quite Western. Why in hell taxpayers in the United States are supposed to pay for this is beyond any rational argument. Goes without saying your Israel is quite a cruel place to it's "losers," even Jewish ones.

And we also fund this bizzarre welfare cult called Hassidum in our country. You know, where the men daven all day and their women make babies who will do the same.

Eugene Weixel said...

PS- thnks, you've sent 90 uniques to my site today. Keep 'em rolling!

KalamazooKid said...

Yeah, well we have that in common with you. Only thing is, our class struggle is a little further advanced, what with the head of our Histradut running for prime minister. Go Amir, go!

Anonymous said...

Jolly sophisticated stuff!

Come on chaps, I was expecting a reasonable debate on this one.

Leaving these infantile comments aside for a moment, that 'simple jewish' post was anything but simple. An attempt to taint by association and character asassination.

Far simpler I say, to deal with Fat guys argument. Why the fuck can Fat Guy 'return' whereas an evicted Palestinian refugee can't.

Hang on.

Best just stick to insults eh?

Ed M. said...

For us, the Elders, you are just one typical SSJ (see here) and not even a particularly clever one.

Yeah, because it's the only way to be safe. You guys hide every day to avoid the horrible persecution of being a Jew in the United States writing clever things about how unendowed Palestinians are. I can't imagine how you do it. True iconoclasts you are. Just try and have some sympathy for the poor, cowardly, folk who aren't willing to strike out such a world-challenging position.

KalamazooKid said...

We don't do debate, (Elder Snoopy, who had an exchange year at Harvard, sometimes succumbs to intellectual argument, but we're trying to get him fixed.)

We are the Elders of Zion, resident in Zion. But not Zionists. And we don't give a fuck.

SnoopyTheGoon said...

"Come on chaps, I was expecting a reasonable debate on this one."

Debate with a guy who uses "Zionazi" as a legitimate term? You must be pulling your own leg, anon...

SnoopyTheGoon said...

"You guys hide every day to avoid the horrible persecution of being a Jew in the United States..."

Wazza fuck? Who is hiding where?

Some posters we get here...