tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post8210694996867483606..comments2024-01-22T04:45:58.881+02:00Comments on Simply Jews: Commentator editor refuses to admit wounded foot injury is self-inflicted GideonSworthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13951672633294843881noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-23252744800135117132012-11-22T00:27:30.570+02:002012-11-22T00:27:30.570+02:00Virginia use to be a strong Republican state, whic...Virginia use to be a strong Republican state, which had last gone for the Democrats in 1964. The Republicans Party's shift to the Right over the last decade alienated the majority of the voters in the Washington DC suburbs of Northern Virginia. It was these suburban voters that swung Virginia for Obama and the Democrats in 2008 and again in 2012.David Allnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-37013000755174542002012-11-12T03:04:45.366+02:002012-11-12T03:04:45.366+02:00Karl Rove is a Republican campaign manager and fun...Karl Rove is a Republican campaign manager and fund raiser. That Fox News has him as a news commentator shows how they are nothing but a right-wing propaganda machine.<br /><br />As for the Election:<br /><br />It is the end of Western Civilization as we know it. Now only Benjamin Netanyahu stands as a Leader of the Free World!<br /><br />As for my native state of Ohio: Glory be to God, Ohio has once again saved the Union!<br /><br />And for my adoptive state of Virginia: As they did four years ago, the voters of Virginia has carried the state to as high as it ever has been!David Allnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-38014151641081923922012-11-10T08:06:16.292+02:002012-11-10T08:06:16.292+02:00Hardly a new conclusion, that the Elephants need t...Hardly a new conclusion, that the Elephants need to be "more inclusive," less conservative, more "progressive." Hardly any more believable than last time and not any more likely to happen. Interesting, don't you think, that Colorado gave more votes to legalizing marijuana than to Barry?<br /><br />He won 25+ states, yes, but some of them by no more than 500K votes. It was a narrow win, historically, much narrower than his own 2008 win, which is rather odd, if not historical, an incumbent being re-elected by a narrower margin. It may be historical, for all I know.<br /><br />Karl's a nice guy. I've known him for years, starting with his days as adviser to Gov. Bush. And he wasn't the only one who doubted the polls. But they did forecast a narrow victory for Barry and that's how it turned out. He calls it "a mandate," but that's ridiculous. As he is in many things. We'll see what happens in 2014.Dick Stanleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-6804417561677862822012-11-10T04:41:53.099+02:002012-11-10T04:41:53.099+02:00I do agree with your main argument, but felt the n...I do agree with your main argument, but felt the need to point out that Rove is not really a pundit, but a player.<br />The reason I point to Colorado is that if you rank the states that Obama won by margin of victory. The state that put him over the top was Colorado, which was won on demographics. For sure New Mexico represents the new demographic as well, but Colorado represents the state where the scales tipped. Virginia, was the next state in line after Colorado. It too was a demographic victory, but more of a city mouse country mouse type specific to itself and not the rest of the country. However, the Virginia demographic trend (with its 13 electoral votes) is also a big headache for the Republicans, as is the North Carolina (15 votes) trend which at best for the Republicans will be a tossup, but will be probably moving into the blue column.<br />The polls had Colorado and Virginia considerably closer than Ohio; They were incorrect in identifying the central battleground.<br /><br />StanStannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-51451356204557052252012-11-09T23:43:38.820+02:002012-11-09T23:43:38.820+02:00Your comment about Colorado could also be applied ...Your comment about Colorado could also be applied to New Mexico, in terms of the demographic shift. Re Rove, I was repeating what the NYT said and apologise for any errors I passed on. <br /><br /><br />Having re-read those Commentator articles, I stick by my main argument re "pundits".Brian Goldfarbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-34538724982123497842012-11-09T13:05:50.038+02:002012-11-09T13:05:50.038+02:00I think it is a mistake to categorize Karl Rove as...I think it is a mistake to categorize Karl Rove as a Fox news commentator. Karl Rove was the coordinator of Super Pac spending for the Republicans. He played a central role in the election, and convinced very rich people to put hundreds of millions of dollars into his control. He had a much larger dog in the fight than just being a Fox News commentator.<br />I am a data guy. The polls were not as accurate as it might seem in this election. The polls showed Ohio to be the central point in this election. It was not. Colorado was. This is a very important distinction. If Ohio with its 1.5 percent difference in vote was the tipping point, the argument would be that the election was a very close hard fought battle over hearts and minds of a middle America. <br />Colorado being the tipping point points to a demographic shift being the important factor. The "Middle America" paradigm would support the proposition that every election can be won or lost by either party in their current state. The demographic paradigm says that the Republican party must be inclusive in order to win. My conclusion from this election is that the Republicans must change the dynamic of their party, or give up on winning the Presidency.<br /><br />StanStannoreply@blogger.com