tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post1455736949525805018..comments2024-01-22T04:45:58.881+02:00Comments on Simply Jews: Richard Dawkins on Islam: finally someone succeeds to avoid mentioning JewsGideonSworthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13951672633294843881noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-4270477379065040092013-08-15T14:25:44.718+03:002013-08-15T14:25:44.718+03:00Yes, but he didn't blow up...Yes, but he didn't blow up...SnoopyTheGoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00920565522498918323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-44065871817966376082013-08-15T03:51:07.044+03:002013-08-15T03:51:07.044+03:00That's debatable. Yassir got one.That's debatable. Yassir got one.SnoopyTheGoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00920565522498918323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-59668672373524775092013-08-14T21:24:24.041+03:002013-08-14T21:24:24.041+03:00No Nobels for that one so far.No Nobels for that one so far.SnoopyTheGoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00920565522498918323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-33432231371596303722013-08-14T21:23:57.145+03:002013-08-14T21:23:57.145+03:00That's only a part of the problem, first the a...That's only a part of the problem, first the aiming issue has to be resolved.SnoopyTheGoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00920565522498918323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-7800203025299837782013-08-14T20:47:31.435+03:002013-08-14T20:47:31.435+03:00They do pretty well at suicide bombing, too.They do pretty well at suicide bombing, too.SnoopyTheGoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00920565522498918323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-69211605561104716042013-08-14T20:45:44.492+03:002013-08-14T20:45:44.492+03:00I've been there. Fortunately a recurring threa...I've been there. Fortunately a recurring threat to confiscate Mr. B.'s allowance got him reaching for the little silver handle every time after 'stead of only occasionally.SnoopyTheGoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00920565522498918323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-13407160782219467922013-08-14T12:38:31.514+03:002013-08-14T12:38:31.514+03:00Hi G,
I absolutely agree with your position on mi...Hi G,<br /><br />I absolutely agree with your position on misuse of correlation. Many a discipline (take medicine as the brightest example) misuse statistics very frequently.<br /><br />Re danger: you probably clearly understand that neither Jewishness nor Israeliness are the "go out of jail" ticket by themselves, but let's let it go.<br /><br />In case of this post you were too suspicious. My subtext (stress on "my") was that I was real happy Dawkins didn't go the obvious way. I hate it when someone uses Jooz to bash Muslims. We really have enough trouble with Muslims without serving as someone's stick as well. Unfortunately he did eventually, so it all went down the drain.<br /><br />As for religions in general - agreed.<br /><br />Cheers.SnoopyTheGoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00920565522498918323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-4525854924716977182013-08-14T12:29:31.921+03:002013-08-14T12:29:31.921+03:00Yes, Clousseau couldn't be forgotten ever.Yes, Clousseau couldn't be forgotten ever.SnoopyTheGoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00920565522498918323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-46147282266462283172013-08-14T12:28:49.367+03:002013-08-14T12:28:49.367+03:00That's definitely one way to look at it.That's definitely one way to look at it.SnoopyTheGoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00920565522498918323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-45046957846344814432013-08-14T12:27:52.500+03:002013-08-14T12:27:52.500+03:00You bet you should.You bet you should.SnoopyTheGoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00920565522498918323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-51248500076310376712013-08-14T09:14:58.941+03:002013-08-14T09:14:58.941+03:00Snoopy;
Oh, I know thew art of correlation very ...Snoopy;<br /><br /><br />Oh, I know thew art of correlation very well. A useful tool, that, though likely one of the most abused in History.<br />As I am sure you know, most people jump from correlation to assuming causality in a heart-beat. This is how our mind works, and even trained professionals sometimes confuse the two.<br /><br /><br />To put the subject of danger in its proper perspective, I should first state that my Jewishness and Israeliness are of surpassing quality. I'm even modest.<br />By "you guys" I meant no insult of course. I was referring to the commentators abound, which seam to gloat on every factoid which correlates Islam to backwardness. Although I agree with much of the opinions you state in the Blog, I cannot identify with that sentiment. <br /><br /><br />You started this post declaring you couldn't be happier we (the Jews) weren't mentioned, but the subtext was clear: our inclusion would have made the comparison to the Muslim world much less flattering.<br /><br /><br />Finally, I want to emphasize I harbor no feelings of admiration for the Islam religion. It is one of the most oppressing ones around, though in the basics its not much different than the other "Abraham" religions, including our own. <br />In my opinion, Islam has only a small part in the dismal state of the Arab world today.SnoopyTheGoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00920565522498918323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-32129782063547553782013-08-14T03:52:16.097+03:002013-08-14T03:52:16.097+03:00And of course the mighty Chief Inspector Jacques C...And of course the mighty Chief Inspector Jacques Clouseau!SnoopyTheGoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00920565522498918323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-36929049720962673992013-08-14T03:35:04.135+03:002013-08-14T03:35:04.135+03:00Nobel Prize laureates have 826 Nobels. Jews come ...Nobel Prize laureates have 826 Nobels. Jews come second.SnoopyTheGoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00920565522498918323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-87830265642708814712013-08-14T03:16:35.020+03:002013-08-14T03:16:35.020+03:00I couldn't agree more. My personal opinion is...I couldn't agree more. My personal opinion is that Muslims provide our planet with the very best scientists, musicians and writers. <br /><br />And that there aren't enough of them around (Muslims, not scientists). Given that latter fact, it is truly stunning how much they contributed to civilization. Did you know that Jacques-Yves Cousteau was Muslim? Yes he was! And so was Moses. And Shakespeare.SnoopyTheGoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00920565522498918323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-68284274315400444982013-08-14T02:50:22.131+03:002013-08-14T02:50:22.131+03:00My sons seem to have a lot of trouble with flush t...My sons seem to have a lot of trouble with flush toilets. Should I be worried that they are clandestine Muslims?SnoopyTheGoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00920565522498918323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-59552774437512204302013-08-13T22:26:39.320+03:002013-08-13T22:26:39.320+03:00Let's leave the issue of danger for the moment...Let's leave the issue of danger for the moment, I shall mention it later.<br /><br />As for statistics: it is not necessarily about causality, although about correlation - but I suspect you know it very well. There might be a lot of explanations why the percentage of people who got the Nobels among the Muslim population of the globe is low. For example: the Nobel committee ignores the outstanding achievements of Muslim scientists. Or: Muslim counties tend not submit their candidates for the prize. Or: science is not necessarily supported and/or budgeted enough in Muslim countries. Etc.<br /><br />Statistics are not there to provide us conclusions, only correlations and observations, it's up to us to interpret those. So I don't see any special pitfalls there, only for people who are untrained in interpreting the observations provided.<br /><br />As for your last question: re irresistible attraction of the Nobel issue to "you guys": here the danger starts. Who do you mean by "you guys"? <br /><br />Notice that I was very happy to start with that Dawkins went for Trinity and not for the Jooz (or for Hungarians for that matter).SnoopyTheGoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00920565522498918323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-14405637091545303972013-08-13T22:15:35.376+03:002013-08-13T22:15:35.376+03:00No, please, lets' stay with Trinity example.No, please, lets' stay with Trinity example.SnoopyTheGoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00920565522498918323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-70406039821009051082013-08-13T21:57:35.299+03:002013-08-13T21:57:35.299+03:00Dear snoopy,
While appreciating the dangers in get...Dear snoopy,<br />While appreciating the dangers in getting into an argument here, I will nevertheless try to explain myself further.<br /><br />Indeed, the statements about the No. of Muslim Nobel prize winners vs. group X may be true, and their truth does not fade with repetition. But I think that your champion uses this statement to imply causality, i.e::The reason there are so few Muslim Nobel laureates is because they are Muslim. To use your own example, that is like saying: "All one legged men die, therefore, they die because they are one-legged".<br /><br />Statistics is notorious for these kinds of pitfalls and while every True statement is logically correct, many if not most are either trivial or meaningless.<br />Tell me, why makes this factoid (no. of Nobel prize winners) so irresistible to you guys?SnoopyTheGoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00920565522498918323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-78904216953840494132013-08-13T21:48:21.762+03:002013-08-13T21:48:21.762+03:00Here is the challenge to the Guardian lady:
Musl...Here is the challenge to the Guardian lady:<br /><br /><br />Muslims have 10 Nobels.<br />Trinity College have 32 Nobels.<br />Jews have 193 Nobels.<br /><br /><br />JEW WIN!!!!!SnoopyTheGoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00920565522498918323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-77635734564000156852013-08-13T21:19:14.452+03:002013-08-13T21:19:14.452+03:00Not sure most atheists are that militant, I think ...Not sure most atheists are that militant, I think that majority of religious people and atheists behave more or less reasonably. But yes, toilets are one of the issues. SnoopyTheGoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00920565522498918323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-41150473312044799922013-08-13T21:17:44.407+03:002013-08-13T21:17:44.407+03:00Yep, I can guess. Yep, I can guess. SnoopyTheGoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00920565522498918323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-82568333335603866292013-08-13T19:47:17.554+03:002013-08-13T19:47:17.554+03:00Dawkins is a rabble rouser. Like most atheists who...Dawkins is a rabble rouser. Like most atheists who never tire of trumpeting their superior "faith." But when he's right, he's right. Face it, the Musselmen are still challenged by flush toilets.SnoopyTheGoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00920565522498918323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-82948174670469494272013-08-13T19:15:16.967+03:002013-08-13T19:15:16.967+03:00Never fear Snoop,
I think your analysis was as you...Never fear Snoop,<br />I think your analysis was as you guys say, spot on. My Nobel Committee remark was a mere observation directed at those who believe the peace prize connotes a really reaaally out standing moral achievement done only by really reaaally super smart morally superior beings and you know who are, don't you!SnoopyTheGoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00920565522498918323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-59607751747829143722013-08-13T18:18:26.273+03:002013-08-13T18:18:26.273+03:00I confess - you got me there, with the peace Nobel...I confess - you got me there, with the peace Nobels. Still...SnoopyTheGoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00920565522498918323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-69188642302989391912013-08-13T17:59:15.530+03:002013-08-13T17:59:15.530+03:00Damn Snoop,
Flashing some intellectual horse power...Damn Snoop,<br />Flashing some intellectual horse power here! How can anyone doubt the Nobel awards committee's Olympian powers of discernment, for they are able to see and award achievements that exist only in the future (re: peace prize)!SnoopyTheGoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00920565522498918323noreply@blogger.com