tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post7595799787877070542..comments2024-01-22T04:45:58.881+02:00Comments on Simply Jews: Gideon Levy and the ugly act of not-rapeGideonSworthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13951672633294843881noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-28842480040213329892012-10-19T10:16:48.614+02:002012-10-19T10:16:48.614+02:00Mental gymnastics? In this case I suspect it is fa...Mental gymnastics? In this case I suspect it is fast becoming some kind of demential gymnastics.SnoopyTheGoonhttp://simplyjews.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-54001818680987979282012-10-18T22:43:36.784+02:002012-10-18T22:43:36.784+02:00Wow! Talking about a no-win scenario! I would &quo...Wow! Talking about a no-win scenario! I would "understand" this sort of twisted and sick thinking if it was coming from Muslims who believe in the Prophet Muhammad's dictate that it is okay to rape and impregnate (or not) the women of Islam's vanquished enemies--as sick as that is. <br /><br />But the uber-progressives never cease to amaze me in their ability to engage in mental gymnastics that truly requires the suspension of all logic. Or, perhaps, the uber-progressives are okay with the sanctioning of rape against the enemies of Islam found in the Qu'ran, and can't understand why the IDF doesn't rape and pillage too. But, of course, if the IDF did, they would be labeled sadistic rapists and savages. The length to which some will engage in self-loathing is amazing ... and totally f*cked up.The Right Planethttp://twitter.com/therightplanetnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-45018627824504321102012-10-18T12:27:49.503+02:002012-10-18T12:27:49.503+02:00Yes, maroon is a good term. And thanks for the lin...Yes, maroon is a good term. And thanks for the link.SnoopyTheGoonhttp://simplyjews.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-54781352670470269362012-10-17T02:02:49.842+02:002012-10-17T02:02:49.842+02:00Gideon Levy is, In the inmortal words of that Grea...Gideon Levy is, In the inmortal words of that Great American, Bugs Bunny:<br />"What a Maroon!"<br />Note: Here is an upcoming symposium about Darfuri women and the genocide in Darfur. This real genocide included use of mass rape as a weapon. Link to it at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDOdCoW2qHs&feature=youtu.beDavid Allnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-40310069631995859502012-10-17T01:56:26.711+02:002012-10-17T01:56:26.711+02:00That true.That true.SnoopyTheGoonhttp://simplyjews.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-54961378400652603962012-10-17T01:52:07.799+02:002012-10-17T01:52:07.799+02:00Thank you, Snoopy. However, I don't think the ...Thank you, Snoopy. However, I don't think the likes of Nitsan and Levy can be allowed to think that short and to the point responses are all there are. Long ones might just make them and their fans think a bit. Unlikely, but I can hope!Brian Goldfarbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-5722021270626924012012-10-14T23:51:18.399+02:002012-10-14T23:51:18.399+02:00Your arguments make, of course, a lot of sense, bu...Your arguments make, of course, a lot of sense, but they don't sit well with the likes of Tal Nitsan and (especially) Gideon Levy...SnoopyTheGoonhttp://simplyjews.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-11361522608571105052012-10-14T23:23:14.158+02:002012-10-14T23:23:14.158+02:00Re Sarah's comment, of course (not to demean h...Re Sarah's comment, of course (not to demean her comment by implying anything other than total agreement.<br /><br /><br />This whole issue came up a couple of years ago on the Engage website, where I posted the following comment, as a sociologist (apologies for the length): "Unless I have failed to read the comments above closely enough, I suspect that one criticism of Tal Nizan has yet to be made, and it concerns poor (social) scientific technique. She is quoted as suggesting in her own abstract to her thesis that the levels of rape by IDF soldiers of Palestinian women in the West Bank may be low because these women (and presumably the men as well) are somehow "dehumanised" in the eyes of the IDF (and all/most other Israelies as well, given the general cross representation of the Israeli population through conscription?). The overwhelming majority of sociologists (and historians) will affirm that dehumanising a population you are fighting against/occupying leads to _higher_, not lower, levels of brutality against them. It would appear that memories of the actions of the Germans (_not_ just members of the Nazi party and the SS) against the Jews of Europe and Russian prisoners-of-war and Russian civilians are extremely short. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Or perhaps those commenting above are too polite to suggest that there is an implicit (or maybe even explicit) comparison to be drawn between Israel and its occupation of the West Bank and the Nazis - this time by certain Israelis. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />As those above have noted, it makes much more sense, both common and sociological, to assume (as potentially testable hypotheseses) that the low levels of rape are due to one or more of the following: high levels of discipline, reinforced by a rigorous military judicial system; a high moral code amongst Israeli males as a whole towards women - women too have human rights; a generalised view of the "occupied" as human beings, with exceptions for those who wilfully (in the eyes of the occupiers) attack them, and therefore generalised "proper" treatment of them; and/or a desire to live in peace, and therefore a wish not to antagonise the occupied population beyond what is "necessary" to maintain the occupation until some solution is found. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />I am relying, as are many of us, on either Isserling's translation being accurate, and/or those with adequate Hebrew that his translation isn't wilful, not being able to read the original."<br /><br /><br />The full website entry can be found here: http://www.engageonline.org.uk/blog/comment.php?id=1575. The arguments still seem to make sense to me.Brian Goldfarbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-43607764916697364132012-10-12T15:15:03.683+02:002012-10-12T15:15:03.683+02:00Bizarre is Gideon Levys' middle name. This is ...Bizarre is Gideon Levys' middle name. This is what his behavior is.SnoopyTheGoonhttp://simplyjews.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18234909.post-73064527528803849732012-10-12T08:04:51.149+02:002012-10-12T08:04:51.149+02:00Bizarre. Surely soldiers rape enemy women precise...Bizarre. Surely soldiers rape enemy women precisely because they see them as dehumanized.Sarah Brownhttp://twitter.com/SarahAB_UKnoreply@blogger.com